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Arizona Sunshine's avatar

I wrote a research paper early in the pursuit of my bachelor's degree at the University of Utah. This was in 1971 which was 55 years ago. My conclusion was that there was no need to drop A bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end the war in the Pacific. Japan was indeed ready to negotiate surrender. President Harry S. Truman committed a war crime against Japan by selecting two civilian targets instead of military targets. Let that sink in. It was a war crime. A crime against humanity.

Gimme Shelter's avatar

If they had to drop an atomic bomb they could have done it far enough off the coast to demonstrate it's power without killing and radiating people. Or maybe even hit a military base with a smaller one.

denise ward's avatar

But they want to kill a lot of people. That's exactly what they want. They thrive on killing and weaponry.

Books Behind Borders's avatar

This is very true, Denise. They are complete psychopaths who are committing massive blood and child sacrifice.

Mark's avatar

They could have never dropped the second bomb.

Aaron Waddell's avatar

it goes much deeper than this though. The real lesson is about the gears of war, and how they’re nearly impossible to stop once they’re set in Motion. Truman knew that it would be absolute political suicide if the American people found out that he had declined to use the weapon that they had spent an ungodly sum of money on developing, and instead ordered an all-out invasion of Japan, sending thousands more G.I.’s to their death, after some of the most horrific fighting imaginable in the island hopping campaigns in the south Pacific, where thousands of lives of both sides were sacrificed for literal patches of mud in the ocean. Again, I’m not trying to justify it. There is no justification for such violence. but the forces of history are powerful things.

PForty7's avatar

The entire loss of millions is a flaw premise. Japan was entirely on the ropes. Truman could have negotiated an end or even just kept bombing and using naval artillery. There was no need to send in troops.

Aaron Waddell's avatar

Also, read about the firebombing of Tokyo, and think about if continuing THAT would have been better. War is HELL. There are no two ways about it.

I recommend reading The End is Always Near, by Dan Carlin, for a nuanced and non-propagandist perspective on the subject.

Aaron Waddell's avatar

That is incredibly easy to say in retrospect. Again, I’m not telling you it was the right thing to do. Only that it would have taken IMMENSE bravery not to do it. And Truman was not that man.

Gimme Shelter's avatar

That's what we were told. Idk

Bernard Doug Cook's avatar

Nukes are a hoax, see my comment above.

Arizona Sunshine's avatar

Nukes are a Hoax? Care to explain what you mean?

Lissa's avatar

Not shocked but I like history. I hope we have entered an era where we can admit that as a country we’re not that great to our own people and to people in other countries. Hell, the Nazis came here to learn Jim Crow, we were so successful, they imported it back to Germany. And we did not need to drop the atomic bomb. I’m old and I’ve been on the outs with everyone on this point. We are a predatory country economically and sexually. You have to own up to your mistakes so that you can change things. We have caused so much harm to people all over the world with our manifest destiny bullshit. We are anything but superior.

Johnny's avatar

The fire bombing of Tokyo in one night killed more people than either of the A-bombs did.

So there was a US attack on Japan that was even more savage than dropping the bomb. It’s just never talked about.

Crevvie's avatar

Everything about WWII is a lie - we (the allies) were, most definitively, the bad guys - being ‘ordered’ by the most evil group of demons to have ever drawn breath! We need to finally right the wrongs we began committing in the 20th century!

anonwaffen's avatar

78k Yids died of typhus and starvation due to allied bombing.

0 died from the holohoax, because that implies a mens rae intent or premeditated mass murder on racial grounds - which never happened, despite the fact that Jews declared war on Germany and tried to BDS them into starvation just as Hitler was getting the Jewish hellhole of a failed state it had been just prior (Weimar) to have a strong pulse and consciousness. Between that and frequent terror attacks both domestically and internationally there would have been more than a few major pogroms and liquidation of Jewish businesses and synagogues in Germany if Hitler hadn’t universally condemn any such reprisals however understandable because above all things he needed the press to be silent to have leverage to restore exports which the Jews were holding hostage by intentionally organized BDS movement (yes they were huge fans of it then - they know it’s actually deadly serious) and the resulting negotiations resulted in the Havaara agreement. Not because Hitler was a Zionist, but because Britain was allowing some in and the way in which they could leave with their wealth was to buy German manufactured goods equivalent to their bank balance and take it with them to Palestine - thus guaranteeing sales because the Jews had to sell it in an area devoid of such products to get back their principal.

However it was terminated the moment Hitler learned that there was a serious possibility of the creation of a Jewish state as Hitler viewed this as a danger to the entire world and I’m 1924 described Israel as it would ultimately be called pretty accurately “ no, most Jews will not go and those who do will make an international university of crime but primarily it will serve as a place where criminals Jews can seek refuge and never be extradited. “ already foreseeing a pedophile and human trafficking safe haven.

Nuremberg article 19 (why they stop at 10 when teaching about the Nuremberg code 19-21 make it clear it’s a total Soviet show trial )

2400/3000 staff at Nuremberg were Jews…

(Paraphrasing but I shit you not) The outcome of this trial shall not be subject to or determined by evidence

Bobby's avatar

I visited both of the Peace Parks at ground zero in Nagasaki on Kyushu Island and Hiroshima in south western Honshu Island.

It is impossible to convey the complicated emotions that I felt. The feelings and emotions that I experienced—simultaneously were of melancholy, guilt, sorrow, bewilderment and overarching phantasmagoria. I experienced an aura migraine with scintillating scotomas. Knowing that my country had murdered so many innocent civilians and with the full knowledge that there would be mass civilian deaths was too much to handle. I left in tears with my ray ban wayfarers on to hide my weeping over the surreal horrors and deaths that occurred almost instantaneously.

The most eerie and disturbing part was seeing the classroom contents and seeing the school clock on wall stopped precisely when the bomb was detonated.

America was founded in atheism and genocide and it is a Culture of Death.

John Visher's avatar

The atomic bomb was (and still is) a giant lie. Nukes are fake.

SaHiB's avatar

Is the ice wall fake? How about green East Antarctica? Nevermind; it was thermobarics. </satire>

John Visher's avatar

Did you marry a penguin?

ED's avatar

FDR WAS JUST LIKE GEN. DWIGHT EISENHOWER ANOTHER MASS MURDERING JUBASTARD WHO KILLED MILLIONS OF GERMAN SOLDIERS AFTER THE WAR WAS ALREADY OVER. HE HELD THEM IN HUGE FIELDS NEXT TO A RIVER (RHINE) & GAVE THEM NO FOOD, NO WATER, & THE AMERIKAN SCUMBNAG SOLDIERS SHOT ANYONE TRYING TO TAKE A DRINK FROM THE RIVER. AMERIKA IS REALLY WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE ABOUT NAZI'S. HITLER NEVER DID THAT TO AMERICAN PRISONERS. OUR ENTIRE HIS-STORY IS A FKN LIE. AND THE GENERAL WAS KNOWN TO BE A JEW HATING NAZI HIMSELF. READ "OTHER LOSES" BY JAMES BACQUE. ALL OUR PRESIDENTS & GENERALS WERE FKN SADISTIC FREEMASON SCUMBAGS. ONLY GREAT GENERAL WAS GEORGE PATTON WHO TREATED THE GERMANS AS HUMAN BEINGS. THAT'S WHY THEY KILLED HIM.

ED's avatar

SO MANY FKN LIES. 1ST OFF THE TRAITOR SCUMBAG FDR STARTED THE WAR ON JAPAN BY PUTTING UP AN EMBARGO ON THE ENTIRE ISLAND, A WAR CRIME, FORBIDING ALL NECCESSITIES FROM GOING INTO THE COUNTRY. HIS 8 POINT PLAN STOPPED ALL ESSENTIALS LIKE FOOD, MEDICINE, EVERYTHING FROM GOING TO THE JAPANESE PEOPLE. IT WAS A WAR CRIME BY THE JEW-SA GOVERNMENT. (SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?) THEN WHEN JAPAN DECIDED TO ATTACK PEARL HARBOR, THE FDR MILITARY TRACKED ALL THE SHIPS FOR A FKN WEEK WITHOUT TELLING ANY MILITARY AT PEARL HARBOR, WHICH KILLED WELL OVER 2,000 AMERICANS. RINGS OF 911 BY THE JEWS RIGHT? ALL THE NEWER SHIPS WERE BROUGHT OUTSIDE THE HARBOR. THAT SCUMBAG FDR WHO PROMISED NO FOREIGN WARS WAS ANOTHER FREEMASON LYING SCYMBAG. BESIDES THE FACT THAT NO ATOM BOMB WAS DROPPED ON NAGASAKI OR HIROSHIMA. BOTH CITIES WERE FIRE BOMBED JUST LIKE THE "ALLIES" DID ON GERMANY. IF ATOM BOMBS WERE DROPPED ON THOSE CITIES THEY WOULD BE UNINHABITABLE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. ALL BULLSHIT LIES. THEY WERE BUSTLING CITIES 20 YEARS LATER. ARE ATOM BOMBS EVEN FKN REAL? OR JUST WAR PROPAGANDA FEAR TACTIC BULLSHIT LIES AS USUAL? THE JEW-SA MILITARY IS STILL USING THE IRAN HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS LIE TO ATTACK IRAN TODAY. THE JEW-SA IS THE BIGGEST FKN TERRORIST SHITHOLE ON EARTH... BESIDES ISRAELI MASS MURDERERS OF CHILDREN. IRAN NEEDS TO TURN ISRAEL INTO A FKN DUSTBOWL.

Arizona Sunshine's avatar

And did you miss the v1 and v2 rocket attacks on Great Britain? Wars were fought in the trenches, from mechanized vehicles such as tanks, with machine guns, with artillery, from the air and with missles. There is a difference between atrocities and war crimes. War is hell. It always has been and it always will be. When the goal is to destroy as much property and kill as many people as possible, the barbarians will always achieve mass casualties. However, there have always been rules of war. Killing children is frowned upon. Killing enemy non combatants is frowned upon. Firebombing is frowned upon. But using atomic bombs on civilian targets crosses the line into war crimes. Extermination camps does too. The international criminal court currently adjudicates `war crimes. Until war is abolished in a utopian future, we will always have senseless killing. We may also have crimes against humanity.

Michael Buergermeister's avatar

Essential reading:

1. Hidden History, The Secret Origins of the First World War 

Gerry Docherty & Jim Macgregor

2. A Century of War Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order

F.William Engdahl

3. The World Order, Our Secret Rulers

Eustace Mullins 

4. Conjuring Hitler

Guido Giacona Preparata

5. Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution

Antony C. Sutton

6. Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

Antony C. Sutton

7. Revolution From Above

Kerry Bolton 

8. War Is A Racket  

Major General Smedley Butler

9. Tower of Basel: The Shadowy History of the Secret Bank that Runs the World

Adam LeBor

RebelAlliance_JMJ's avatar

WW2 was a Christian Genocide and $$$ Laundering scam...Industrial War Complex made Billion$$$

jef's avatar

forgive me if you've thought of this already, but for your list of documentaries: earth's greatest enemy by abby martin

Mark Lobati's avatar

You don’t understand the difference between association and causation. Sex education entered the schools because of the explosion in teen pregnancies, not the other way around. For the other topics, usually people use references unless you’re a conspiracy theorist or MAGA. Then an article of Faith is enough.

Eric Marshall's avatar

When you tour Hiroshima the tour guide thank you When you tour Hiroshima the tour guides thank you for ending the war and defeating their INSANE Military that was training children to wear bombs to run under American trucks when they invaded Japan! What people often don't know is that the Japanese Military high Command had ordered the execution of all 150,000 POWs on August 22nd. They didn't want them helping the invasion or telling the world of their atrocities. There is a copy of the order in Laura Hildabran's book "Unbroken". Had we not dropped the bombs when we did, the Emporer would have gone along with the military. Dropping the bombs convinced him that they were beaten and their entire existence would be wiped out if they didn't go against the Military. He recorded a message to the nation on a record explaining the need for them to surrender. The Military tried to get the record and destroy it! But sainer heads hid it successfully. They were trying to negotiate a conditional peace which was not what our leaders wanted... they wanted unconditional surrender so the country could be rebuilt as was done. Many people claim it was dropped to beat Russia who had invaded Mancuria and declared war on Japan now that Germany had surrendered. The minutes of the meeting with the Emperor mention no concern over the Russians at all. They were not a factor. The bombs were dropped on cities that had not been devastated by fire bombing so the actual power of the device could be ascertained. Even so, it was determined that the first bomb was a "fissle" only partial yield was developed. No matter it was atrocious enough to finally convince the Emperor that his greedy honor bound maniac military leaders were going to completely destroy his country and culture, which has rebounded to be the 3rd most powerful and successful economies on the planet.