150 Comments
User's avatar
Chris L's avatar

The 1st amendment goes out the window when you criticize policies of the state. If you had written anything remotely critical of Covid 19 a few years ago, you would have tasted it then too.

Robin Landry's avatar

I’m particularly proud of my 12

Timeouts on Facebook during COVID. I even had a direct message deleted.

As for the current anti-Semitic panic, you don’t get to claim you’re the victim when you can create laws that punish people speaking out against you.

This alone says that you are the one in charge.

longletters's avatar

I was going to mention the Abe Foxman episode and there it is! The only thing I would add is that roughly around that point in the documentary 'Defamation', he is shown encouraging the people he visits to perceive him as coming as a representative of the USA, not as a private citizen.

That sort of private citizen use of the authority of the country is a crime, fwiw.

longletters's avatar

Postscript: if I'd read your ADL article first, I would have said, "is *one* of their crimes"! So well done. Thank you for all the research you do.

It is absolutely remarkable that they have such an enduring history of acting as a foreign agent.

It occurs to me that the state level is probably where to go, for laws against the illegal surveillance and sending of illegally obtained data out of the country. It might be the case that a state wouldn't touch extranational transport but maybe they would. And it is often states that regulate wiretapping and other sorts of surveillance. For example consent to be recorded is a state by state patchwork.

We need a grassroots org that will work on legislation to put in front of each of our states, maybe local levels too, and strategize lawsuits to bring, which can restrain these illegal behaviors at the state and at the federal levels.

You're absolutely right, they are organized crime. The notion that these lawless foreign agents have influenced our policing may have ramifications we haven't even yet intuited. This probably deserves study as well as immediate action. Policing is state or even local, so that is where to start with that.

Maggie V's avatar

Thank you for bringing light to this. We all need to wake up to the fact that history (his story) is all created by the winners. Wars are fake because every country agrees to these lies. We can all agree to keep out people from Antartica, but we go to war over resources, ect. ALL THEATRE TO DIVIDE US. This bs ends when WE THE PEOPLE all stand up and say no.

RJ Sykes's avatar

Keep up the good work. Your research should be taught in schools - perhaps the easiest way to start is to share it with the homeschool communities?

Books Behind Borders's avatar

I would love to figure out a way to do this! Any ideas on expanding to the homeschool communities?

RJ Sykes's avatar

There’s groups on FB, which is a good way to find and share work to communities.

Valerie Leger's avatar

Maddie you did amazing research to bring this to light. You know you’re over the target when they try to silence you. No this has never been taught in school. Hmm I wonder why.

Rocco's avatar

Unfortunately it’s true. Their holocaust is more important than any other in history. They use holocaust and “ antisemitism” as a weapon to get whatever they want.

Stalin killed more people than Hitler ever did in his drive to industrialize and confiscate land and property from the farmers for the benefit of the “ State”. But we never talk about the tens of millions of people who died at the hands of Stalin. He would personally check off people for that day or send them to the Gulag where they would be worked to death.

The gulag still exists today as Russian prisons.

Direct Executions and Purges Direct Executions: Archival records released after the fall of the Soviet Union indicate that roughly 800,000 people were officially executed by the Soviet state for political crimes during Stalin's tenure, with the vast majority occurring during the Great Purge of 1937–1938.Gulag Deaths: Hundreds of thousands more died inside the Gulag forced labor camp system due to disease, malnutrition, and exhaustion. [1] (https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/d2wax3/who_and_how_many_did_stalin_allegedly_kill/), [2] (https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/6w4p2d/stalins_great_purge_numbers_and_effects_on_the/), [3] (https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/b1fhf0/what_was_the_acctual_death_toll_of_the_great_purge/)Broader Famine and Regime TotalsFamines: When including deaths from catastrophic man-made or mismanaged famines—such as the Holodomor in Ukraine and the Kazakh famine of 1932–1933—historians and community consensus on subreddits like AskHistorians place the total death toll closer to 6 million to 10 million. [1] (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1h08bku/what_is_the_actual_amount_of_victims_of_the/), [2] (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/20hf1i/did_stalin_really_kill_millions_of_people_how_do/)Higher Estimates: Older estimates from Cold War-era literature (such as the work of Robert Conquest) often cited a figure of around 20 million deaths, while some critics and maximalist estimates run even higher. However, modern mainstream historians generally scale down those higher numbers following access to Soviet archives, distinguishing between intentional mass executions, criminal negligence, and famine-related mortality. [1] (https://www.reddit.com/r/ussr/comments/1kv3ng0/deaths_under_stalin/), [2] (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/1hfss7n/how_many_people_died_because_of_stalin/), [3] (https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/e654of/what_do_you_think_of_this_image_debunking_stalins/), [4] (https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/ezpp8k/how_many_people_did_stalin_actually_kill/), [5] (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/20hf1i/did_stalin_really_kill_millions_of_people_how_do/)

Books Behind Borders's avatar

And while he was murdering all of these people, the United States locked arms with him…completely ignoring his crimes against humanity. Absolutely nothing has changed today.

Julianne's avatar

Hi Maddie - thank you for raising these concerns. In addition to what others have stated about Stalin, the books about Stalin by Simon Sebag Montefiore are very instructive.

When you ask “why weren’t we told the real history?” - another key element is that many Americans on the left were misguided in believing Stalin’s propaganda. For example, George Bernard Shaw visited Stalin and returned to the US with an entirely distorted view of Russia as progressive. He and several other public figures in America, as well as university professors, who were in favor of socialism, did not recognize they were manipulated by the master of lies and a genocidal maniac. Neither Lenin nor Stalin actually wanted “the workers” to own or control anything. Various ethnic groups, including Jews, were pawns in these leaders’ game of overthrowing the Tsar, murdering countless people, and creating a massive territory of control. The history here is very complex, and it would add credibility to cite your sources.

Another reason we were never told the truth: Post-WWII, the CIA ensured via Operation Mockingbird that the American press would not report the truth about anything that could negatively impact American business. We were “in business” with Stalin. Now we are “in business” with Putin. The American press has never told the truth about these deals and who is behind them, and brave journalists who reveal truths are discredited or “disappeared”. The narrative of lies as truth runs sadly deep in many naive people.

Unabridged Mind's avatar

"Various ethnic groups, including Jews, were pawns in these leaders’ game of overthrowing the Tsar" ---- Emphasis on the part of the article that shows the percentage of leadership. Plus understand that the guy behind the podium is always less powerful than the group who put him there. I think Stalin went bye-bye not long after sending a small number of Jews to the gulag.

Rocco's avatar

I’m kind of shocked by your statement. We Americans were deeply afraid of Stalin and his millions of soldiers in the Warsaw Pact. This was during the Cold War between 1945 and 1991.

We constantly feared a Soviet Invasion. We had it in film and media. From 1949“ I married a communist to 1984 film“ Red Dawn”.

I’m shocked at how little you know how the US dealt with “ Soviet threats” from 1945 to 1991. It’s shocking ignorance your post has been.

I grew up in the 70s and 80s. We constantly feared a Soviet invasion with millions of soldiers in the Warsaw Pact.

We had “ School of the Americas”. Military officers from throughout Latin and South America were trained. From Mexico to Brazil. We supported juntas to right wing governments of the Arena Party in El Salvador. All to counter Soviet influence throughout Latin America and South America. Chili dictator Pinochet who was trained at the “ School of the Americas” overthrew democratically elected government of Aillende in 1974. His sword hung at the School of the Americas.

I was part of an organization that protested in 1987 as weapons were shipped from the Concord Naval Weapons Station to Latin American dictators. This was all Reagan’s policies. One of our guys lost his legs by a train shipping weapons.

I’m deeply shocked at your ignorance.

Julianne's avatar

Interesting that “you” do not seem to know several facts. You seem to be a bot. Fact: the School of the Americas provided training in torture, rape and genocide to many different “armies” in service of American business interests around the world.

Beware of voices that sound hollow.

ChatterX's avatar

Oh, and let US not forget that Cuban missile crisis was initially caused by the U.S. placing their "Jupiter" missiles in Turkey and Italy in 1961.

They could reach Moscow in 10 min

ChatterX's avatar

Did you know that in 1954 the Soviet Union proposed that it joins NATO as part of a mechanism to preserve peace in Europe? NATO turned down its request. And only AFTER that In 1955, the Warsaw Pact was formed in response.

***

Did you know that the idea of Russia’s joining NATO is actually decades old? Gorbachev proposed it in 1990, and Putin reportedly proposed it to President Clinton. Thus, the obstacle to Russia’s membership in NATO appears to be NATO:

thehill.com/opinion/national-security/591036-invite-russia-to-join-nato/

***

Here's a good article for you: "Why NATO Has Not Permitted Russia to Join"

www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/19/why-nato-has-not-permitted-russia-to-join/

***

Let me quote Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Ex-Director of Policy Planning in the Bush/Powell State Department:

"it would impair the continuing military effectiveness of NATO, that Russia, essentially as an insider, would become obstructive and would work against NATO’s continuing viability."

***

Certainly, with Russia inside, it would be better as an instrument of peace in Europe. But it would be useless as an instrument for the US to dominate Europe. Refusal of membership to Russia is simply another way of saying that NATO is not a means to ensure peace in Europe.

***

So you probably don't need to be a geopolitical genius to understand that if there is a MILITARY alliance closing in to your borders and surrounding you, joining all other countries EXCEPT yours, this alliance is obviously built against YOU..

Rocco's avatar

Both Roosevelt and Churchill knew what Stalin did during during WW2. Roosevelt became President in 1932 one year before Hitler rose to power. Roosevelt was President during his first 2 terms in office when Stalin was doing his purges.

United States and UK intervened in the 1920s Bolshevik revolution overthrowing the Tsar and the execution of his entire family by Lenin. So it wasn’t like the west didn’t know.

Both Churchill and FDR chose the least mass murderer who was instrumental in stopping Hitlers invasion of Soviet Union in 1940. Both needed Stalin. It’s just that simple. Hitler had Europe in his grip.

Unabridged Mind's avatar

Sickening but it makes sense due to the fact that the USA became Zio-compromised in 1913, before WW1. Thus fought as golems in both world wars.

Gemini Dream's avatar

I’m an American who’s never left America lol

Rocco's avatar

I wrote a paper on the US supporting right wing government of Honduras by the Reagan Administration when Reagan became President in 81. It was called “Operation Graveyard”. This was at San Francisco State during Clinton Administration.

Operation Graveyard was the right wing government military would knock on the door of their victims in the middle of the night. The victims would be flown in a helicopter and drop them off in the middle of the ocean.

You are just like the rest. Ignorant and live in a paranoid world.

Gemini Dream's avatar

Yes I have lived in fear. I don’t know what else to say about it except that I agree.

Gemini Dream's avatar

I’ve heard of detainees having that helicopter over the ocean ya

Gemini Dream's avatar

Rocco, I hope that this message above wasn’t at me, but I know Americans are stupid stupid people. Please I want to do better. Always.

Gemini Dream's avatar

I briefly heard about “The Austrian Painter” whom was worse than hitler also given the excuse that Stalin helped USA so apparently nobody talks of it. I used to follow the Ukraine groups and that is where I’d heard he took more victims. Thank you for bringing this to light

Gemini Dream's avatar

I had recently heard more about it than I did the first time. It’s not really an excuse that there’s been too many big world events going on to really study it or read about it. ✌️

Rocco's avatar

Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union until 1991. Soviets kept much of their territory under closed doors. When Chernobyl disaster occurred in 1986, Soviet Premier Gorbachev kept it secret until the nuclear radiation spread into Europe.

The story of Holdimier spread because of the internet. It was harder to get this information even under gorby.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 15
Comment removed
ChatterX's avatar

"If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and If Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible."

-Then-senator Harry S. Truman, 1941

***

US GEN.(RET) KELLOGG: It’s the "acme of professionalism" to use Ukraine to fight Russia:

youtube.com/shorts/N51j1XN0y64

***

"When two neighboring countries fight each other, just know the USA visited one."

-Attributed to Nelson Mandela

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 15
Comment removed
Progressive Witch's avatar

this “books behind borders” account peddles literal NAZI propaganda & of course is anti-communist as anything. To call it a “rad lib” account is “kind.” It’s too bad that she is unwittingly serving the ruling class, capitalism, & other systems that she claims to be against….. long 🧵https://substack.com/@progressivewitch/note/c-320592733?r=50tmxf&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

Civilized Visual Presence's avatar

THIS IS THE REAL HISTORICAL STORY OF IGNORANT LINGUISTIC UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE TERM OF “HOLODOMOR”.

Thank you human fellow explaining the historical details of economic-political difficulties of ex-USSR.

You present yourself as"Alien” due to the ignorant propaganda of mainstream western media sources, which are infiltrated by paid journalists of CIA & other western special services to present Russia & Russian people as the outsiders of European human sicieties, while Russian people are partially Europeans & partially Asian in their ethnic origins as so are majority of European citizens of every European human society.

Wish you a Happy and Long life my human fellow.

Valerie Leger's avatar

Thank you for all the research information.

Books Behind Borders's avatar

Thank you for your support 🙏🏼

Dmitry's avatar

"Unfortunately it’s true."

Proof please.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 15Edited
Comment removed
Rocco's avatar

CIA did not exsist until the 1947 National Security Act. FBI officially became active in the 1930s with Director J Edgar Hoover took over at the age of 26 on May 10 1924. He started to go after American gangsters in the 1920s. Hoover hated OSS and its creation, CIA.

OSS became active in June 13, 1942. This was during WW2. CIA was carved out of Office of Strategic Services when WW2 ended.

There has been a rivalry between CIA and the FBI to this day.

I don’t know anything about MI5 or MI6 but your paranoia is quite funny.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 15
Comment removed
Rocco's avatar

What do I know is that people like you are paranoid about anything on the subject of the US.

United States dismantled its military after WW1. Americans were adamant about going into any wars. By 1939, United States had 250,000 soldiers in all branches of the military army, navy and coast guard. We had 17th largest military in the world by 1939.

Roosevelt could not go to congress and get its approval to declare war until imperial Japan attacked the United States on January 7 1941.

Your paranoia resembles of many Americans.

Donna Pare's avatar

Thank you for the information re this genocide. I will share it.

Valerie Leger's avatar

I also want to thank all the respondents who also added good commentary and additional resources.

C P's avatar

Wow Maddie, this is just sick. I learn a lot from your posts and articles. Keep up the good work!

Kaylene Emery's avatar

Thanks Maddie.

Blessings from Australia.

URsomoney's avatar

Did not learn this in school but from the movie “Mr Jones”. It is based on the true story of Welsh journalist Gareth Jones, who uncovers the truth of the devastating famine in which millions died in the Ukrainian USSR, Soviet Union. He cannot get the Western world to believe his reporting as he faces a massive disinformation campaign orchestrated by the Soviet regime & enabled by CORRUPT WESTERN JOURNALISTS like NYT’s DURANTY.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 15
Comment removed
URsomoney's avatar

It still told the story of the Holodomer which we did t know. Gareth Jones is a minor detail.

ED's avatar

AND THE BRITISH SCUM ARE NO BETTER THAN THE JEW BASTARDS. THE SUPPOSEDLY ROYAL FAMILY OF ENGLAND ARE FKN NAZI GERMANS & NOT BRITISH AT ALL. THEY R INBRED FKN VAMPIRES WHO AREN'T EVEN HUMAN JUST LIKE THE JEWS.

Ngungu's avatar

Good article, though I would like to add a few more details.

* The term “Holodomor” appears to have first been used in print in the 1930s, in Ukrainian diaspora publications in Czechoslovakia — sometimes spelled “Haladamor”. Its exact first appearance is uncertain.

In the 1930s, “Holodomor” did not yet have the fully developed modern meaning of “the genocidal famine of 1932–33 in Ukraine”.

The modern spelling and meaning developed later among Ukrainian émigré communities, notably in North American Ukrainian publications by 1978.

Ukrainian nationalists used term trying to fan the flames of Ukrainian independence from the USSR in its final years.

Since the 1990s the term Holodomor has been widely adopted by anti-communists **in order to draw parallels to the Holocaust**.

Note that Canada hosts some of the most virulent groups of rabid ultra-right wing Ukrainian fascists who were transplanted into the Prairies and west coast by Anglo-American intelligence networks in the wake of WW2.

* The Jew-controlled NKVD organized the “Holodomor”. However, at the Nuremberg Trials this was never mentioned. When, in 2009, the Ukraine tried to open criminal proceedings, the Ukrainian Jewish Committee had it cancelled as it would “constitute an incitement to hatred” since those charged were almost all Jewish.

* The forces of modern Ukrainian nationalism needed to manufacture a case for dividing Ukraine into eastern (pro-Russia) and western (anti-Russia) blocs, and in 2006, the Ukrainian Parliament passed a bill which labeled the 1932-33 famine an “act of genocide against the Ukrainian nation”, ignoring the reality that **both ethnic Russians and Ukrainians** died by the millions during the famine.

* In his book “The Harvest of Sorrow”, Robert Conquest estimated that some 14½ million peasants lost their lives; of these, some 5 million were Ukrainians.

You state: "The Ukrainians called this holocaust, the “Holodomor,” which means a “Famine-Genocide”. Of course, the Zionists deny this."

Why limit it to the zios? Why not state "Of course, the Jews deny this", which automatically includes the zios?

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 15
Comment removed
Ngungu's avatar

Thanks for a link to your own comment. Can you provide 1 or 2 links to credible sources that prove Conquest was what you claim he was?

ChatterX's avatar

One of the few credible sources of information on this issue was Robert W. Thurston

Ngungu's avatar

I have not found anything specifically on the Holodomor, but perhaps it is in this book by him: "Life and Terror in Stalin's Russia".

User's avatar
Comment removed
Sep 16
Comment removed
Ngungu's avatar

Nice try at deflection. You made the claim, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and if you did so much research providing a couple of links should not be a problem.

The onus is on you, but since your aggressive reply proves you don't have anything to back up your claim, I shall discard it as the ramblings of a poor lost soul.

As Rocco advised: get help.

Lisa Cummins's avatar

Excellent article! I learned a lot, thanks ☺️