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Gokul Das's avatar

I feel sick just reading it. But one thing is very clear. They didn't see the girls as humans. These people should never be in power.

Mark's avatar

I can’t read it pisses me off too much

Linda's avatar
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They, themselves, were broken as young children; Fractured.

Turned into MONSTERS.

It is necessary that we comprehend what has gone on, yet, I am not so sure that doing what Drumpf did to entice everyone into mobbing the Capital, is intelligent. Maddie ought not do that. She ought

not add projected emotion. Emotion ought to rise organically.

Gokul Das's avatar

Yes, I agree that they were likely broken as young children. But I don't understand the brutality. What would make someone so cruel?

I wasn't exaggerating when I said it makes me sick. Everything out of the Epstein files makes me sick. Apparently, the FBI agents who redacted them were also in tears. A retired police officer said that nothing in their training prepares them for the violence they see. If this is the sanitized material, what do they see? I like investigations. But I don't think I can stomach this.

> Today I know that Epstein liked to tell friends that women were merely ‘a life-support system for a vagina.

Are these the type of people who become presidents, prime ministers, governors, diplomats and billionaires? Literal serial rapists and murderers? Aren't there any decent people around? We are in a lot bigger trouble than we imagine.

> For him, sex wasn’t connected to intimacy or love. It was purely a physical release.

They don't see the human being right next to them! They have ZERO emotional connection with anyone! And this isn't just the sexual perversion either. Seen Kegsbreath or the dictator joking about killing unarmed civilians at sea, or boasting about ambushing and murdering cadets on an unarmed naval ship? They absolutely would use the nukes if they could get away with it.

What turns children into this sort of monsters? It's hard to believe that normal babies would grow into this!

And as for an insurrection or revolution, it happens all the time. The US was born in one. But if a peaceful resolution is the choice, then the window for it is rapidly running out. People won't take such abuse forever.

Linda's avatar
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Yes, yes, yes, yes to all of your questions. Im sick to my stomach and in fight or flight mode, heart pumping, bags in car, not knowing whether to flee or continue on feeding my chickens, etc. they are NOT human. We cannot negotiate with NON humans. Spielberg's film is to distract all of humanity from THESE monster aliens. To make us fall in love with the cuddly Hollywood-version "aliens" and to even depend on THEM, instead of Jesus. The LAW is on their side. People ARE taking it.

They don't know what to do.

The Veil Dispatch's avatar

Virginia🩷🙏 As a woman, as a mother, as a human being…it is unbearable the price she paid: her life. All of it. There isn’t a day that passes without remembering her. Her bravery and tenacity amidst betrayal after betrayal is what we should all be striving for. To not let her fight die with her. Thank you for writing about her. 🥺

Tina's avatar

Sickening POS both of them, and they (JD) suggested MAXWELL testify on TRUMP'S behalf? 🤣 Oh PLEASE do!!!!!

Keep her ass in there till she doesn't have one and his 80 year old ass .... hang him literally!!!

Gokul Das's avatar

I know that Epstein is seen as the devil incarnate. But my instinct tells me that Maxwell is even more dangerous. It's easy for people to see her as a product of Epstein's grooming, since she's a woman. But it's just as easy to miss what she may be hiding. Something about her just doesn't sit right.

The survivors keep flagging her. Many have said that she is as bad as or even worse than Epstein. She's known to have abused them on her own. Virginia Giuffre said that they're less like gf/bf and more like the two halves of the same evil. And one survivor said that she may have made Epstein into who he became in the end. None of it gives any confidence that she's any less of a threat than Epstein.

Epstein was quite vile and villainous on his own. But part of his success was due to his access to Maxwell's estate. Maxwell's past is more mysterious. Her father Robert Maxwell was a powerful news tycoon and politician with known clandestine links to Israeli nuclear weapons program. He died under mysterious circumstances, just like Epstein. So their publicly known criminal link is through Ghislaine Maxwell.

And then there is Epstein's death. Assuming that he was assassinated, why didn't his killers consider Maxwell as an equal threat? Why is she sitting in a luxury resort prison with a puppy, instead of a maximum security prison, when she hasn't done anything so far to clear Trump's name? Why is the Trump admin so generous with her? Are they afraid of her? And if you have seen Epstein's interrogation by the FBI and Maxwell's Congressional hearing, one thing stands out - Maxwell is a lot more defiant than Epstein was. And she has the gall to demand a presidential pardon! What is she hiding?

And the orange dictator is considering pardoning her. But that would be a disaster! I believe that she's still resourceful enough to reassert her influence over the Epstein class. If she is let lose, she never be seen again. That will put all the 1000+ survivors in even bigger mortal danger than they're already in.

Tina's avatar

I totally agree with you!!! She's need's to go back to the Prison she came from and serve every second of her sentence.And these survivors need their justice to their nightmare's just to finally breathe. And get the help they need and have needed. And Maxwell need's even more time tacked on to her sentences and the little girls that were murdered they haven't uncovered the worst of all of this....... she can die in prison as far as I'm concerned...... because she was the Epstein gargoyle.!!

Gokul Das's avatar

Yes! I'm leaving this anywhere relevant so that anybody who hasn't considered that yet will do it now. I have a strange feeling that the full story behind the scenes is a lot more complex, confusing and stranger than what we all imagine. We will have to leave our regular social norms and assumptions behind while trying to understand them. We might be looking at these events for a few centuries like in the case of Jack the Ripper case.

Tina's avatar

Exactly! Because they've redacted them and most likely destroyed the rest..... and Lutnick, Bondi, Gates and the rest of them weren't even " under Oath"? But look what they did to Bill and Hillary Clinton that were "Under Oath "? They're all complicit, In this ALL of them Republican's except for a small,smaller smallest few!! And in the state our country is in, Is ALL on them too!!!

Matthew's avatar

If somebody were to harm your little girl or your son through sexual assault abuse like rape and murder, this could help to resolve the problem since the government will do nothing. More and more people are resorting to a special ops type former military. Since the government is not helping veterans, many of them are trained to be silent unseen and capable. I realize not everyone has the money however on confident that if you keep the money off the books and can pay for the services of these individuals, it can be done and the problem solved. Personally I don't care if it's just the molestation but if it's sexual assault or murder then justice needs to be reciprocated. The more we remove these vile and bread sanctimonious predators the better off we will be.

Margaret Fleck's avatar

If justice could be served, all of the people involved in taking, grooming, and using children for sex, would be executed. Banks, politicians, abusers, blackmailers, facilitators should die by execution. Everyone.

Now, it's easy to say something that will never happen.

Regarding the argument that the abusers were abused and that should mitigate guilt. No.

Primarily because it must be stopped. Without qualification. Stopped.

If someone has become a sex addict because of something done to them, it is sad that they suffered, however, addiction is never an excuse for behavior, to the contrary, it often mandates consequences.

Once a monster is made they cannot be unmade. That is what makes them a monster. Monsters will always destroy they are not capable of doing anything else. They cannot be rehabilitated or cured.

Allowing monsters to live has given us a criminal government which is destroying every living thing.

Mike Menzie's avatar

If my daughter/sister was assaulted by one of those maggots I would make it my life’s work to track him down and castrate him with a very dull knife.

Abhishek Singh Chauhan's avatar

This is the true face of trump too

Susan Lois Lane's avatar

I still wear little girl panties. They’re cotton, you perverts

Gary Kersey's avatar

For goodness sake, stop painting someone the devil for looking at panties..please....if he deserve massive punishment for that, then what's left for him when we discover he was assisting a group of people who want to kill hundreds of millions of people in the world?

Ang's avatar

Its ain't just looking at underwear. It's the fact that it's powerful man were raping and sexually assaulting children and young girls hello. You must be a pedo or protector also.

Gokul Das's avatar

That's the biggest understatement of the century! Forget that you're talking about a part of the account of the brutal rape of a minor girl. You're ignoring the damage such people are capable of doing. He and his ilk doesn't see those girls or any of us as humans worth treating humanely. Once you cross that level, the death and suffering you can cause is limited only by your influence, wealth and power. You forget that one of the reasons they seek all of those is to satisfy their sick sadistic fantasies.

Here is one more detail you're ignoring. Their child sex trafficking offense is publicly known only because of the presence of living witnesses who are also the victims. What about the offenses that didn't have any witnesses or those where the victims didn't survive? For those 1000+ survivors, how many other girls and boys might have they killed? What about the drug trafficking and social media manipulations? These are all crimes we know they have committed, but don't have any details about. Epstein and his ilk aren't devils. They're the ones who scare and repulse even the devil! Every.. one.. of.. them!

Matthew's avatar

Unbelievable. Here's someone who has such tunnel vision, they only see what they want to see. Lurking down inside their veneer is a past/present behavior that has no moral or ethical compass. How sad 😢