I sadly didn’t know about some of these. And have absolutely adjusted my listening behaviour.
There’s millions upon millions of hours of music. I don’t care how much I like it I guarantee I can find beautifully inspired similar music from someone who didn’t engage in such reprehensible acts.
The fame of these guys never really got through to me. Wasn’t excited about their music and couldn’t understand why others were. The bits of lyric I caught turned me off, especially the Stones (just because one couldn’t go anywhere without hearing them). I’m glad you’ve outed them so others who felt differently can reconsider and maybe reflect on what attracted them to such monsters.
First, you need to read about pedophilia and understand what it is. None of these rock stars exhibited pedophilia. You write so much on the topic of teenage sex that you look ridiculous describing it as pedophilia. Please stop. Please read, books if possible.
Second, I grew up in the 60s and 70s and just about every teenage girl I knew would have gladly fucked Mick Jagger if they ever had even the slightest chance. And other rock stars.
Finally, mores? From a rock star? Better stick to old Methodist organ hymns.
These articles are my favorite to write because it brings the pedophile apologists out of the woodwork. Frankly, I couldn’t give less of a shit what the pedophiles in power define as pedophilia. If you’re attracted to underage children, you’re a sick, demented pedophile who belongs in prison. Or worse.
Interesting that you can stand on top of the point and still miss it.
The fact they wanted to be with rock stars demonstrates exactly how vulnerable they were to exploitation. It doesn’t excuse the men.
And we don’t in any other circumstance treat teenage desire as proof that it’s okay to give them what they want.
It seems like maybe post like these either trigger you because of your own previous behaviour, or because you’d have to reckon with how you were treated.
Either way, grown men having sex with teenagers is morally and ethically disgusting … even if it doesn’t classify as pedophilia by one year for some of the examples.
I'm a 51 year old man, single with no daughters and middle-twenties has begun to seem aggressive. Most of us aren't even developed until well into our twenties so I don't get these guys behavior; other than they're obviously trying to beat the next pedo-rocker to the punch. I'd still go out with late twenties, but only if they hit on me. Just my perspective, as it's the only one I know! Great work Maddie; it's disturbing that these are the lyrics millions have been rocking out to for generations
I have a feeling you've had many of the same experiences I had growing up in the 70's. Grown ass men constantly on my tail before I was even 16. Why are men this way? It has really tainted my view of men and relationships.
I don’t believe all men are like this. I think it’s just more highlighted nowadays. People tend to write about the bad stuff, myself included. Unfortunately the good stuff doesn’t get highlighted enough. But there are absolutely great men out there.
I'm 51 and still find a few twenties and thirties attractive, but won't even go to a 30s bar. The teen thing I don't get it; there's got to be a line drawn there. Time to grow up. If they want to sleep with another 16 yo that's their business. Glad I don't have daughters!
You missed the big two, Gary Glitter and Ralph Harris. Both #1 hit artists in England. "Two little boys had two little toys." Sang the Queens favorite Pedo.
In the UK the most concerning Paedos tend to be those who have sex with children. The age of consent is 16, so while the 14-year olds are as contentious now as they were then, Page and Bill Wyman and Elvis are really small change when considering the real paedo celebrities like Sir Jimmy Savile. Its a relevant distinction that bears mention. While you can see 14-year olds who look older, and to be fair, you mention five guys with underage girls, but that practice was pretty widespread across the industry for decades. Its probably still not uncommon today.
If we're going to talk about pedo offenders, the paedo layer that warrants the most attention is those sick fucks who fuck young children who are small children. There is no like for like comparison to a rock star consensually interacting with an underage girl after getting her mothers consent and approval, like Jimmy Page did, like Elvis did, like Bill Wyman did; and a grown adult who targets children who are not physically developed. Like Sir Jimmy Savile a paedo celebrity who was allowed to carry on doing what he did for years because he was a BBC TV star and a friend of the royal family. Everyone knew he was a disgusting child rapist and the police were prevented arresting him by a cover up by the establishment running the law society in collusion with the media..
It occurs to me that I am writing this now because I knew about Savile then. I wrote about it, much as you are doing now. Outraged by a sick fuck paedo. Noone was interested in my very well written letter of outrage about a paedo raping disabled children then. I sent it as a letter to the Times. They didn't run it. Savile carried on raping disabled children in hospitals for years after my letter was ignored by Rupert Murdochs newspaper who had the power to inform on paedos, which came as no surprise.
You know how Murdoch made his fortune in the UK with the SUN Newspaper. He started the PAGE THREE girls. Any girl showing up at his Wapping office with her passport proving she was 16 could get £50 for showing her breasts. Girls lined up on their 16th birthdays for that opportunity. Millions of people in Britain's bought the SUN so they could see a girl one day out of her 15th year show her breasts.
Not only was that legal, Murdoch was enormously successful catering to that demand among British men. The SUNS circulation doubled in the first year after he started PAGE THREE Girls. Equally concerning is how many girls relished the opportunity to be famous in this way, in many cases being driven to Wapping by their mother's.
When government control the media controlling the extent to which celebrities can enjoy child sex offenses with immunity, as you see with the Epstein Kushner Trump circle, you have a far greater issue to consider than Elvis romancing a 14-year old Priscilla with her parents permission. Horrific though that now sounds.
NOTE: 1.) Ralph Harris was convicted of indecent assault in 2014 and sentenced to five years and nine months in prison, but he was released on parole in May 2017 after serving nearly three years. He died in 2023. At 93.
2.) Gary Glitter is still in Prison. He was paroled and immediately reoffended.
Maddie, thank you for covering this. There are of course others too. For a very long time, Led Zeppelin was my favorite band. I sell used CDs on eBay, and since my eyes have been opened and I've been working a lot harder to follow Jesus, I've stopped selling rock CDs by the people you've named and those with pretty dubious messages. I do think that everyone is capable of being redeemed, but I also don't want to be called out when I'm standing in front of the Big Guy for selling their CDs when I knew better.
Truly Stones Goats Head Soup was in Satanic Majesty’s Service. Page the guy who ripped off Spirit - Stairway To? Weir - Too Easy - Weird! Now I See ArrowSmother S.Tyler assaulted 16 year old Julia Misely- Holcomb after mother signed over guardianship on ‘74 is back in Headlines.
How on earth can Bill Clinton walk free while a Prince is being stripped of his title, Maxwell is in prison, Epstein Brunel, Siad, are 'dead'
Its interesting how Maxwell is still alive.
Most of top level people in the music industry is rotten. And the artists are just slaves.
Virgin records Richard Branson living next island to Epstein. Universal Music / Sony music Tommy Mottola is also in the files. Then there was David Geffen who's name popped up in the NXIVM Bronfman stuff several years ago.
There are many people with a lot of money in the music and film industry who's names are not very visible.
Its huge. From marketing record production, merchandise, booking, promotors, tv and radio people,
I'll never understand how these guys got access to girls. GIRLS. However, from my experiences, especially with girls I knew in high school and a certain girl who became very dear to me when I was in my thirties (she was 25, dont misconstrue what I'm saying) young girls have a craving for "stars!" and once that guy pulls the Mr. Cool Rock Star move, its over. Mom and dad were obviously absent. My 25 year old didnt "ever date anyone my age in high school". Its the perversion of hyped up big shot grown a$$ men, mixed with starry eyed little "hotties" who just put themselves out there and "go for it". Two way street. And if mom and dad didnt watch over their children it becomes a big wide open hunting ground and young people are NOT bright. Slick hotshot meets girl looking for attention. My 25 year old (that was in the 90s btw) recently told me "I've had men chasing me my entire life", kinda' what R Shelli's comment states. Its rough when youre young, hot and tight. Youre a perv magnet.
I guess that it just goes to show how the MSM and the hype given to men with power, fame, and wealth becomes a breeding ground for depravity. Additionally, it stands to be a reason behind the quote that Trump once made during his interview with Howard Stern: "when you're a 'star' they just let you do it"! But, at no time when dealing with minors (who are obviously young, impressionable, vulnerable, and naive) should that mean that an adult should take advantage of the situation - let alone act upon it!
Absolutely. And, I appreciate the Howard Stern reference. I just wish all those old syndicated shows would be aired again. Especially when DT was the “special guest” and the skimpily clad little girls happily delivered the plates of blow and straws. To the “special guest.” And then, sat on his lap and held the straw. Yeah, those should be resurrected.
I sadly didn’t know about some of these. And have absolutely adjusted my listening behaviour.
There’s millions upon millions of hours of music. I don’t care how much I like it I guarantee I can find beautifully inspired similar music from someone who didn’t engage in such reprehensible acts.
The fame of these guys never really got through to me. Wasn’t excited about their music and couldn’t understand why others were. The bits of lyric I caught turned me off, especially the Stones (just because one couldn’t go anywhere without hearing them). I’m glad you’ve outed them so others who felt differently can reconsider and maybe reflect on what attracted them to such monsters.
First, you need to read about pedophilia and understand what it is. None of these rock stars exhibited pedophilia. You write so much on the topic of teenage sex that you look ridiculous describing it as pedophilia. Please stop. Please read, books if possible.
Second, I grew up in the 60s and 70s and just about every teenage girl I knew would have gladly fucked Mick Jagger if they ever had even the slightest chance. And other rock stars.
Finally, mores? From a rock star? Better stick to old Methodist organ hymns.
These articles are my favorite to write because it brings the pedophile apologists out of the woodwork. Frankly, I couldn’t give less of a shit what the pedophiles in power define as pedophilia. If you’re attracted to underage children, you’re a sick, demented pedophile who belongs in prison. Or worse.
Hope that helps! Oh and unfollow me.
Interesting that you can stand on top of the point and still miss it.
The fact they wanted to be with rock stars demonstrates exactly how vulnerable they were to exploitation. It doesn’t excuse the men.
And we don’t in any other circumstance treat teenage desire as proof that it’s okay to give them what they want.
It seems like maybe post like these either trigger you because of your own previous behaviour, or because you’d have to reckon with how you were treated.
Either way, grown men having sex with teenagers is morally and ethically disgusting … even if it doesn’t classify as pedophilia by one year for some of the examples.
I'm a 51 year old man, single with no daughters and middle-twenties has begun to seem aggressive. Most of us aren't even developed until well into our twenties so I don't get these guys behavior; other than they're obviously trying to beat the next pedo-rocker to the punch. I'd still go out with late twenties, but only if they hit on me. Just my perspective, as it's the only one I know! Great work Maddie; it's disturbing that these are the lyrics millions have been rocking out to for generations
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I have a feeling you've had many of the same experiences I had growing up in the 70's. Grown ass men constantly on my tail before I was even 16. Why are men this way? It has really tainted my view of men and relationships.
I don’t believe all men are like this. I think it’s just more highlighted nowadays. People tend to write about the bad stuff, myself included. Unfortunately the good stuff doesn’t get highlighted enough. But there are absolutely great men out there.
Been married 45 years with no affair.
Most of us are too nice, but ladies have to watch their 6s
I'm 51 and still find a few twenties and thirties attractive, but won't even go to a 30s bar. The teen thing I don't get it; there's got to be a line drawn there. Time to grow up. If they want to sleep with another 16 yo that's their business. Glad I don't have daughters!
You missed the big two, Gary Glitter and Ralph Harris. Both #1 hit artists in England. "Two little boys had two little toys." Sang the Queens favorite Pedo.
In the UK the most concerning Paedos tend to be those who have sex with children. The age of consent is 16, so while the 14-year olds are as contentious now as they were then, Page and Bill Wyman and Elvis are really small change when considering the real paedo celebrities like Sir Jimmy Savile. Its a relevant distinction that bears mention. While you can see 14-year olds who look older, and to be fair, you mention five guys with underage girls, but that practice was pretty widespread across the industry for decades. Its probably still not uncommon today.
If we're going to talk about pedo offenders, the paedo layer that warrants the most attention is those sick fucks who fuck young children who are small children. There is no like for like comparison to a rock star consensually interacting with an underage girl after getting her mothers consent and approval, like Jimmy Page did, like Elvis did, like Bill Wyman did; and a grown adult who targets children who are not physically developed. Like Sir Jimmy Savile a paedo celebrity who was allowed to carry on doing what he did for years because he was a BBC TV star and a friend of the royal family. Everyone knew he was a disgusting child rapist and the police were prevented arresting him by a cover up by the establishment running the law society in collusion with the media..
It occurs to me that I am writing this now because I knew about Savile then. I wrote about it, much as you are doing now. Outraged by a sick fuck paedo. Noone was interested in my very well written letter of outrage about a paedo raping disabled children then. I sent it as a letter to the Times. They didn't run it. Savile carried on raping disabled children in hospitals for years after my letter was ignored by Rupert Murdochs newspaper who had the power to inform on paedos, which came as no surprise.
You know how Murdoch made his fortune in the UK with the SUN Newspaper. He started the PAGE THREE girls. Any girl showing up at his Wapping office with her passport proving she was 16 could get £50 for showing her breasts. Girls lined up on their 16th birthdays for that opportunity. Millions of people in Britain's bought the SUN so they could see a girl one day out of her 15th year show her breasts.
Not only was that legal, Murdoch was enormously successful catering to that demand among British men. The SUNS circulation doubled in the first year after he started PAGE THREE Girls. Equally concerning is how many girls relished the opportunity to be famous in this way, in many cases being driven to Wapping by their mother's.
When government control the media controlling the extent to which celebrities can enjoy child sex offenses with immunity, as you see with the Epstein Kushner Trump circle, you have a far greater issue to consider than Elvis romancing a 14-year old Priscilla with her parents permission. Horrific though that now sounds.
NOTE: 1.) Ralph Harris was convicted of indecent assault in 2014 and sentenced to five years and nine months in prison, but he was released on parole in May 2017 after serving nearly three years. He died in 2023. At 93.
2.) Gary Glitter is still in Prison. He was paroled and immediately reoffended.
Mick Jagger, Bill Wyman and Elivis confirmed pedophiles for decades. The latter two married young teenagers.
You’re such a lier. I don’t love any of those musicians.
Maddie, thank you for covering this. There are of course others too. For a very long time, Led Zeppelin was my favorite band. I sell used CDs on eBay, and since my eyes have been opened and I've been working a lot harder to follow Jesus, I've stopped selling rock CDs by the people you've named and those with pretty dubious messages. I do think that everyone is capable of being redeemed, but I also don't want to be called out when I'm standing in front of the Big Guy for selling their CDs when I knew better.
Truly Stones Goats Head Soup was in Satanic Majesty’s Service. Page the guy who ripped off Spirit - Stairway To? Weir - Too Easy - Weird! Now I See ArrowSmother S.Tyler assaulted 16 year old Julia Misely- Holcomb after mother signed over guardianship on ‘74 is back in Headlines.
Don Henley was close to being in this "club", if not actually a member.
Its unbelievable Maddie
How on earth can Bill Clinton walk free while a Prince is being stripped of his title, Maxwell is in prison, Epstein Brunel, Siad, are 'dead'
Its interesting how Maxwell is still alive.
Most of top level people in the music industry is rotten. And the artists are just slaves.
Virgin records Richard Branson living next island to Epstein. Universal Music / Sony music Tommy Mottola is also in the files. Then there was David Geffen who's name popped up in the NXIVM Bronfman stuff several years ago.
There are many people with a lot of money in the music and film industry who's names are not very visible.
Its huge. From marketing record production, merchandise, booking, promotors, tv and radio people,
I find it interesting that people actually believe Maxwell is even in prison.
Indeed, I find it difficult to switch between official narrative and common sense.
And you just caught me there...
That video of her in canada. That was quiet clear.
Personally I think epstein is either in Israel, or stored at some black site as in that TV series.... Black list.. or both like in that tv show..
Same with Brunel, they both disappeared from prison the very same way. Epstein Maxwell and Brunel are unlikely to be suicidal.
Same with Gerald Marie.
Daniel Siad appears to be different, a small player without value and a big risk when talking.
My opinion.. as things look at this point in time.
But the cards get shufled quiet often.
I'll never understand how these guys got access to girls. GIRLS. However, from my experiences, especially with girls I knew in high school and a certain girl who became very dear to me when I was in my thirties (she was 25, dont misconstrue what I'm saying) young girls have a craving for "stars!" and once that guy pulls the Mr. Cool Rock Star move, its over. Mom and dad were obviously absent. My 25 year old didnt "ever date anyone my age in high school". Its the perversion of hyped up big shot grown a$$ men, mixed with starry eyed little "hotties" who just put themselves out there and "go for it". Two way street. And if mom and dad didnt watch over their children it becomes a big wide open hunting ground and young people are NOT bright. Slick hotshot meets girl looking for attention. My 25 year old (that was in the 90s btw) recently told me "I've had men chasing me my entire life", kinda' what R Shelli's comment states. Its rough when youre young, hot and tight. Youre a perv magnet.
I was aware of all that abuse, other than Bob Weir. But, this was, sadly, common behavior and common knowledge back in the 1970s.
Looking back, I can't understand how it was all so acceptable. Even Tiger Beat covered Jimmy Page and his conquests, like no big deal. WTF
I guess that it just goes to show how the MSM and the hype given to men with power, fame, and wealth becomes a breeding ground for depravity. Additionally, it stands to be a reason behind the quote that Trump once made during his interview with Howard Stern: "when you're a 'star' they just let you do it"! But, at no time when dealing with minors (who are obviously young, impressionable, vulnerable, and naive) should that mean that an adult should take advantage of the situation - let alone act upon it!
Absolutely. And, I appreciate the Howard Stern reference. I just wish all those old syndicated shows would be aired again. Especially when DT was the “special guest” and the skimpily clad little girls happily delivered the plates of blow and straws. To the “special guest.” And then, sat on his lap and held the straw. Yeah, those should be resurrected.