Anyone should be encouraged to investigate critically the Holocaust narrative in the same way they are encouraged to investigate every other historical event.
“If you think the news is fake, wait till you find out about history.” Once people wake up to the lies of the Holocaust, then people can start waking up to all lies that have been told all throughout history.
Most academia, let alone mainstream media, describe Jews and Judaism as something separate from arab , whereas the reality is Judaism was born in the Arabian peninsula and is an Arab religion. Now of course for political reasons Judaism created a myth of these people being some unique tribe chosen by god …. but that should not blind the thinking human from the actual truthful origin of Judaism…
Judaism is in fact a set of fabricated tales designed as an escape from legal prosecution by the Iranians who had been holding the Arabs accountable for nearly 2 centuries of theft from ancient Silk Road caravans. Arab tribes had been unjustly enriching themselves and claiming to be «merchants » but could not prove to the Iranians where their gold and silver mines, their factories and their trade crafters were that had supposedly produced their goods!! Yet these Arabs were increasingly zealot and even wanted to take over trade routes inside greater Iran and the Roman Byzantine regions.
The time frame involved here is only about 1600 years ago.
We do not have any evidence of Judaism or of its prophets and claims that is older than 1600 years. None.
There is not a shred of evidence for Moses, Abraham, the exodus, ancient Israel, Solomon , David, Esther, Mordechai….
This is also true of Jesus and Mohamad.
No physical evidence or contemporaneous historicity exists to support existence of any of the above mentioned characters places or events.
Jews are simply Arabs whose false narrative has given them a mask, a deceptive tool with which to manipulate others, and to maneuver themselves into or out of every crime they committed, every people they wanted to influence, every country they wanted to control….
What started 1600 years ago as a self fulfilling prophecy culminated in their creation of Christianity and then Islam.
Using their plundered wealth Then these arab now Jewish « merchants » infiltrated Romans, and by inverting Mithraism, which was practiced by Rome for over 800 years, created Christianity.
This took Rome under the same false abrahamic narrative, and forever ideologically separated Rome from Iran.
From then on, the Romans have been Jewish mercenaries!
These Two, the Arab Jews and Christianized Rome invaded Iran 1400 years ago. And created Islam in order to destroy the enduring and unifying Iranian civilization that had been developing for at least 14000 years!
Iranians fought back for over 200 years.
But for the last 1000 years the Jews used Islam and « pseudo ethnic identity » wars to physically partition parts of Iran.
Hence the vast territories of Iran that are now falsely considered as Turk, or Russian or Arab .,.,
The creation of Ottoman Empire was simply a partition of greater Iran using the fake split of Shia vs Sunni Islam.
Not even the Turk identity was used 500 years ago when they created wars between eastern and western Iran.
All of the Ottoman Empire was Iranian in origin, its population, its statesmen, its nobility, its culture, its architecture etc…
Although many regional wars continued between ottoman and Iran they were cognizant of their shared identity (as the Romans shared the same ideological mithraic identity until they were cut off via Christianity)
Thus a hundred years after the creation of ottomans, the « Turk » identity was created and heavily infused into the Ottoman Empire. And in fact the Jews of Europe and Russia aided the ottomans in many raids into Iran until they took the region today referred to as « Iraq », but which was always part of Iran until four hundred years ago.
Baghdad was one of Iran’s three capital cities for 800 years!
Can you empathize with the devastation felt by millions of Iranians, disheartened not only by erasure of their culture civilizational heritage - which was built on unity, wisdom and bravery, - but to additionally endure loss of millions of their people, vast parts of their painstakingly developed territories, and their hard earned legacy?!
And to lose all of this to an abrahamic horde worthy of none of its greatness ?!! !
Just imagine the intense but silent suffering of Iranians being surrounded by fake countries which in actuality are quintessentially Iran!!
Yet who’ve been molded by Jews into enemies of Iran!!
They claim arab turk russian israeli moslem christian identities.. anything but Iran- their actual mother civilization!
To make matters worse each claim achievements, personalities and history of Iran as their own!!
All of them have been equipped and enabled by abrahamic oligarchy to destroy Iran! Over and over and over
To this very day, the dynamic of Jews using Christians, Moslems, (now around four billion!) as well as pseudo ethnic identity groups,
1. as their mercenaires for conducting warfare,
2. as fake opposition to create color revolutions,
3. as ideological foot soldiers that lionize judaism,
4. or all around objects of Jewish influence
is the absolute leitmotif, and only truth of political history.
The rest - what is taught in university or books or any media - are simply LIES.
David Cole did some research on this in the 1990s - he got a lot of shit for it. He has since recanted some of it and he's gotten even more shit for doing that. Read his Sub on this topic. I hope you are not bothered by anyone. I am highly suspicious of laws against holocaust denial or revision. I wonder when someone will come up with slavery denial lol.
The Holocaust is the only historical event questioning of which is protected by law. That alone should tell you everything you need to know about its truthfulness.
I'm Jewish and an outspoken anti-Zionist. Your post makes me very uncomfortable. With all due respect, you're not the first person to study these numbers. The Holocaust figure - 6 million - has been analyzed, reanalyzed, and challenged before. The figure has also been substantiated countless times. Antisemitism is rooted in the contention that the Holocaust is a fiction and/or that the figure of six million is inflated. For argument's sake, let's say half that many Jews were exterminated. Is that less of a horror? We agree, I think, that a LOT of people were slaughtered for being Jewish. Concentration camps are real. I've seen them with my own eyes. And what about the other 6 million people who were killed because they were gay, "gypsies", etc. Do you think those numbers are inflated as well? Is your point that the figures were inflated for the purpose of creating Israel? I'm usually in agreement with everything you say. But given all the real antisemitism stirred up in large part because of the genocide in Gaza, this post at this time strikes me as troubling.
“Antisemitism is rooted in the contention that the Holocaust is a fiction and/or that the figure of six million is inflated.”
I do not agree with this at all. Antisemitism does not stem from the Holocaust. It existed well before then.
Additionally, I never argued that concentration camps didn’t exist. They most certainly did. I simply said all of the death figures they supplied were lies. I proved that in the article. They admitted it themselves that none of their figures were correct. There’s a ton of evidence that show these were work camps as well. Many died from Typhus.
I supplied primary sources for all of this. None of this are my allegations. I sourced everything.
…many died of Typhus in a work camp, and so the death camps should equate to a smaller number?
I don’t get the logic here, and never will, because it’s a choice, and to choose …now, of all times… to suddenly become critical about the beaten-dead-horse of a stat that is the Jewish count of the fuckin’ Holocaust is a ludicrously fascist-supporting tactic.
I’ll continue to choose to believe “6 million Jews” were killed, because who gives a shit about the number? Too many Jews were industrially murdered (genocide/holocaust)… done. Too many innocent Poles and flag-less immigrants were murdered for that matter, and I don’t need to know the exact amount to change my mind.
I get y’all are anti-Zionist, and that they may have tried to inflate a number to gain some sort of power, so thus the pitch-forks. But, well, fuck, guess they get lucky on this one. Because whether it be 50,000 people, 500,000 people or 50 million people, the number and means of going about it were fucking incredibly horrible. And also incredibly anti-Jewish. End of debate.
yes but Pike, in WWII many more millions of Soviets, Christians, Protestants etc were killed than jews but these groups do no do things like demand payments for 80 years from Germany, force countries to teach their kids about the killings or bring up the deaths every day as an excuse for current abhorrent actions.
Yes, THIS. this is kind of the entire point of my article. That’s why I wrote the entire paragraph about everybody else who was killed during WWII, yet were never taught those figures. We’re only taught about the “6 million” legend.
Explain to me how AMERICAN CITIZENS have no idea how many of their FELLOW AMERICANS were killed in the war?
There is a REASON for that and that’s what I’m re-examining. It is brainwashing and indoctrination. There is no other answer.
I never liked the Israeli argument "Never again". I agree with you on that one. Using the holocaust to morally immunize Israel against war crimes and ethnic cleansing is disgusting.
This is a good point. Though as I mentioned before, a large percent of the Soviet dead was Jewish. I think it would be helpful to look at the percentages of victims in each group. I agree with Norm Finklestein on using the holocaust as an excuse for mistreating others. I get you on that part.
I agree with you. Why is it important to try to make the number lower? Does that make it less of a genocide? What number is the cut off? The Germans kept meticulous records. They have lists upon lists. They made the prisoners stand in rows and count and recount them every day. They had daily lists of how many went directly to be gassed, then burned. The Einsatzgrupen were a special killing force who went to the Eastern countries. They dug pits rounded up as many Jews as possible. They all were shot in the head then fell in the pit. Including babies and children. This would go on for days. In many countries (notably Romania) their police assisted with the killings. They got creative with their killing. We can't know how many Jews were killed in these campaigns. I have read and watched complex documentaries about the Holocaust. Making an issue of the number killed is a deflection. The information is available: Books with foot notes and interviews. The people who deny the Holocaust or need to diminish it have chosen not to know facts that are available. I'm not a Jew or an elite. Just a regular person with a particular interest in history.
Did you read the article? Because you didn’t dispute anything I said with facts…spewing off something that you heard from the MSM / Hollywood / school just isn’t going to cut it. All of those are tools to brainwash you.
The number does matter. And I explain in detail why it matters inside the article. Please read it. Then we can have a constructive conversation.
antisemitism dates back centuries, I never said it started with the Holocaust. I actually said what is helping furl is the horror of Gaza. But even without it there’s plenty of it out there. I was called a “dirty kike” on this platform. That the very definition of antisemitism in case you aren’t sure.
Do you think committing a genocide of the native peoples in Palestine is helping your cause? You don’t seem the slightest bit concerned about that while the rest of the human population of our planet is FUCKING HORRIFIED. Do you expect people to watch your beloved people ruthlessly slaughter people AS IF THEY ARE INSECTS and respond by thinking “oh gosh, these Jewish people MUST HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR THIS because to think otherwise would make me the WORST KIND OF HUMAN ON EARTH, a — GASP!! - “antisemite”.
In short WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? Why do you care more about what people might think of some Jewish mass-murdering maniacs than you do about the ACTUAL SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENTS ITSELF. You people are unbelievable in that you complain about those who protest the slaughter than you do about those COMMITTING THE SLAUGHTER. You and your ilk are literally CREATING ANTISEMITISM every time you open your GENOCIDAL MOUTHS. Just pure ugly human evil on display and the only way you complain about it is to bitch and moan about the people who are trying to stop it and NOT the people who are committing it. Make it make sense or BE HATED FOREVER
Beth, I do not care what somebody thinks. It doesn’t keep me up at night. We’re all individual people who are entitled to have our own opinions. In fact, I welcome it. Because I usually learn something new. That’s what life is about. I don’t expect nor want to only have people following me who agree with everything that I say. That would be both boring and unproductive.
Also, can you dispute anything I said? Any of the facts I provided? Or are you just going to call me a Holocaust denier, as if that’s going to scare me away from talking about it? Because I can assure you, your desired effect will not happen. It only makes me more curious. I said that exact thing in my article, which I highly doubt you read in its entirety.
of course it DID! Millions of Eastern Europeans were murdered, gulaged, tortured and deported by the Bolshevicks and nobody ever mentions about these victims... REAL victims of the J- Bolshevicks.
WHY? for reminding the REAL suffering of the victims of Marx and Bolshviks and Lenin and Trotsky's communism? over 100 millions at least from USSR to China and in between. FACTS FACTS I am anti-communism and anti-LIES, and antibolshevism, anti-Leninism, ... whoever those perpetrators were/are. And we KNOW who they were/are.
Bonnie can you cite this scholarship you’re referring to? Because if you look into it like Maddie has you will see the numbers are all over the place.
You also make a logical fallacy that “Antisemitism is rooted in the contention that the Holocaust is fiction…”. So you’re saying there was no antisemitism before the holocaust? This is the danger when you try to underpin a moderate position (“antisemitism exists”) with an untenable one “six million died and it’s illegal to question that”.
Seriously, why are Jews working overtime to make it illegal to question the Holocaust and question Zionism unless neither idea can stand up to scrutiny?
When I was in school they made us read Elie Wiesel. Then later Wiesel admitted it was fictional. This is not how you build trust.
"So you’re saying there was no antisemitism before the holocaust?" What? What are you talking about? Your interpretation of what I said is interesting but completely inaccurate. You've misinterpreted or misread basically everything I said. That's fine. I'm not into debating anyone on this platform.
I’m with you, Bonnie. I read the whole article too and it reads like Maddie is skirting carefully around saying the Holocaust didn’t happen with out saying it by casting doubt on all “facts” because some facts seem to be in question. This makes no sense to me since there are so many people who escaped to the US who have told consistent stories of their families’ persecution and murder or disappearance at the very least. There are stories from soldiers who helped liberate the camps! There’s no question the Holocaust happened. Tragically some people are using the controversy around the number of those murdered to defend anti-semitism and thereby fuel the fire against Jews. I am also against Zionism and Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. Two things can be true at once but it seems many Americans struggle with this.
I’ll just add that many of the comments here are beyond appalling.
Absolutely no where did I say the “Holocaust” didn’t happen. You inferred that, as you stated yourself. I’m not going to defend myself off of a baseless assumption.
I’m curious, can you dispute any of the facts and sources I provided that 6 million Jews did not die? Because that’s literally what the article is about. It’s not about whether it happened or not. Those are two COMPLETELY separate things.
You are absolutely right. The figure did not have to be 6 million or half or even quarter of that to be horrifying. Questioning the validity of the number does not negate the suffering endured. The unjust death of even a single human being is wrong and unacceptable. And there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for wiping out a whole population for any reason whatsoever. There is, however, a responsibility involved in quoting numbers. The article also raises an important question:
> "Ask how many Chinese civilians died during the Second World War, how many Soviet citizens were killed, how many Germans died, or even how many Americans died, and far fewer people can answer."
Millions died at the hands of Stalin (6-9 million) and Mussolini (3 million) but we only have estimates. Not exact numbers. That's not the case with the Holocaust. And it's only fair to ask why.
Can you provide information on how the numbers have been substantiated? This post makes me deeply uncomfortable as well, but also her arguments seem pretty straightforward. It’s hard to argue with if you can’t provide any counter evidence.
My arguments are extremely well stated and cited. Not one person has been able to dispute anything I said. They have simply called me an antisemite, which means that’s the only counter argument they have.
Whats funny, is that the ones calling me this have been following me for a long time. Which means they’re aware of what i do on this page: reexamine history. Ans they enjoyed my work, up until i made them uncomfortable.
I’m not going to lie, it makes me extremely uncomfortable as well… but for the exact reasons you stated. I would really love if someone could find evidence to debunk what you’ve posted. Especially because there is no need to lie about the terrible things that happened during WWII, it was fucking awful even if the real numbers are a fraction of what I’ve always been taught. But anyone that knows anything about Zionists knows they are liars to their cores, and they are more than happy to breed antisemitism by promoting falsehoods. They’re happy to point to their very real persecution for sympathy, and they’re happy for anyone uncovering their lies to equate them with all Jewish people who by and large are good and normal people like the rest of us.
But I do recognize that I need to examine biases within myself… I cannot bring myself to even like this post or any comment you make. I am observing the conditioning in my own mind in real time. It feels live a grievous, racist act to even consider that perhaps there were less deaths than I thought. Which is really fucking weird because when I examine that thought directly my conclusion is this is great news, the scale of suffering and evil was perhaps smaller than I thought. That is a good thing, a very good thing. So why does it make me feel like a total piece of shit to even consider it as a possibility.
Because you’ve been brainwashed your entire life. You’re giving them — as in the people who want you to feel this way — exactly what they want. The only answer is to de-program yourself. You are allowed to change your mind after learning new information.
Yes I know. It’s still extremely difficult to wrap your mind around. And it’s not like I’ve had the bandwidth to track down every source you’ve posted, so it’s going to be a slow process. When you’ve heard these things only from virulent antisemites your whole life, it’s very difficult to just change your perspective. That being said, I’ve gone 180 already on almost everything I was raised to believe including my own Christian fundamentalism so… I have a gut feeling that you are not bullshitting. Hard pill to swallow though.
Only the truth will set us all free from genocidal fanatics like Netanyahu and his raping ghouls.
Knee jerk reactions to the exposure of political Zionist manipulation of history ‘for’, will only serve to increase the global anti-semitism created by ongoing Zionist atrocities. Exposing the duplicity upon which Zionists build their influence will serve to separate Judaism and the real victims from the criminals who still act with impunity in their collective name. It is intended to prevent future Jewish pogroms.
We have ALL been had by our global postwar political class. They have benefitted greatly from historical lies playing on our sympathies in order to hide their exploitative criminality.
Your comment dismisses the lies that have been fed to us since 1945. If the 6 million was a lie, then what is the truth? Why can people not actually research it and find out the truth? In most western countries, researching the "holocaust" is illegal. Its not hard to undertake research and when you see the first neutral responders into the camps, in this case the International Red Cross, you see 271,000 people died. 271,000 people mind you, not 271,000 jews alone.
Once you look at these facts, the 6 million is quickly seen for what it is - blatant lies. Now in the 80 years post-WWII, jews have milked this 6 million in every country they are in to garner sympathy for their cause. The result? from 1945 to 2023 most of the world looked at jews as a downtrodden people that have been through horrors and anyone with empathy would feel sorry for them. Since 2023, people have awoken and are re-visiting the history we were all told happened. I mean, WWII killed over 20 million Soviets and nearly 90 million Christians (numbers backed up by facts unlike the 'holocaust') and you dont hear them crying about it.
The 20 million dead Soviets included a lot of Jews. The Soviet Union didn't like to focus on the number of Jews killed. This article does not mention the mass killings of civilians done on the eastern front.
Are you aware of who was in charge of the Soviet Union at that time? Because I am. I have posted countless articles about it. I’m fully aware of how many were killed.
I’m not even seeing what your point is in what you’re saying? My stance has been clear. Even ONE death is one too much. I don’t pick favorites. I find it all contemptible.
Stalin was in charge of the Soviet Union at the time, but he was not in charge of the vast territories under Nazi occupation - Ukraine, Belarus, and much of Western Russia. Not sure why you mentioned that.
Sorry I should have clarified that post. Of the 20 million Soviet dead, millions were Jewish civilians. The 6 million figure might be accurate - we may never know. The Soviets didn't like to focus on the Jews. To them, the victims were Soviets first and foremost. Not trying to piss you off here. I like your stuff.
Millions of Eastern Europeans were murdered, gulaged, tortured and deported by the Bolshevicks and nobody ever mentions about these victims... REAL victims of the J- Bolshevicks.
Much like how currently university biologists are forced to spout nonsense like men can be women to keep their jobs, Historians have to pretend they believe the Holocaust story and ignore all the counter evidence against it (lest they be imprisoned in some cases)
Interesting. Being raised with that figure I never thought about it much. I’m sure you’ll be trashed by many-but I’ll not be one of them. I don’t doubt Jews were murdered.
Absolutely 6 million didn't die in the holocaust. I believe about 250k died of starvation and unsanitary conditions. Most towards the end of the war when all of Germany and surrounding states were isolated and starving caused by the allied powers attacks on civilian infrastructure.
Brilliant article! I had seen bits and pieces of this on the internet over the years but you put it all together! That number has been a hoax from the beginning!
On another note; it sure is looking to me like that book they say has been debunked, 'The Protocols of Zion' is sure becoming a reality, what with their expansion not all over the 'middle east' but buying up land in Argentina, Crete and elsewhere....
And lastly, I can't help but think that only 2% of the US is......can't be, some conspiracy theory going on here....think about that number only 2% yet....
Thank you so much! That was what I was hoping to do. Create something that has a lot of the information in one place. Shockingly, this isn’t even the half of it. I will probably do a part 2…
I’ve always read that 1/3 of Jewish Holocaust victims were murdered at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen death squads pushing east (1939-42) before the 3rd Reich came up with the gas trucks and later the death camps following the Wannsee Conference (death camps differing from strictly concentration/work camps).
I’ve assumed the 1/3 field death estimates were accurate (haven’t fact checked/crossed referenced).
Alot of us white people like my knew this storys already in the 80s lady, some even before, nothing new, my grandfather was an SS officer in WW2, he landed in the soviet gulags but survived, when i was a child i learned alot from him, we told the world already in the 20s,30s,40s who the "chosen" people really are but the world did not listen but destroyed us, today its too late, you can do nothing anymore
There is always something to be done. Your defeatist mentality certainly isn’t helpful. Put yourself in a 20 year olds shoes who is learning about this for the first time. That’s the people in writing this for.
Nope more lies from the devils spawn if it was true they wouldn't be invading Palestine cos there wouldn't be enough of them. All bollox wish it had then there would be 6 million less child rapists and child killers 🍉🏴💜
I've always wondered why I wasnt ever issued a new land, being descended from gypsys, having a disability and being gay... that would have been lovely.
“If you think the news is fake, wait till you find out about history.” Once people wake up to the lies of the Holocaust, then people can start waking up to all lies that have been told all throughout history.
From science to economics to education, everything has been told in a specific way to get us to see the world in a specific view: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/from-artemis-to-dinosaurs-seeing
Here is a bit of important hidden history
Most academia, let alone mainstream media, describe Jews and Judaism as something separate from arab , whereas the reality is Judaism was born in the Arabian peninsula and is an Arab religion. Now of course for political reasons Judaism created a myth of these people being some unique tribe chosen by god …. but that should not blind the thinking human from the actual truthful origin of Judaism…
Judaism is in fact a set of fabricated tales designed as an escape from legal prosecution by the Iranians who had been holding the Arabs accountable for nearly 2 centuries of theft from ancient Silk Road caravans. Arab tribes had been unjustly enriching themselves and claiming to be «merchants » but could not prove to the Iranians where their gold and silver mines, their factories and their trade crafters were that had supposedly produced their goods!! Yet these Arabs were increasingly zealot and even wanted to take over trade routes inside greater Iran and the Roman Byzantine regions.
The time frame involved here is only about 1600 years ago.
We do not have any evidence of Judaism or of its prophets and claims that is older than 1600 years. None.
There is not a shred of evidence for Moses, Abraham, the exodus, ancient Israel, Solomon , David, Esther, Mordechai….
This is also true of Jesus and Mohamad.
No physical evidence or contemporaneous historicity exists to support existence of any of the above mentioned characters places or events.
Jews are simply Arabs whose false narrative has given them a mask, a deceptive tool with which to manipulate others, and to maneuver themselves into or out of every crime they committed, every people they wanted to influence, every country they wanted to control….
What started 1600 years ago as a self fulfilling prophecy culminated in their creation of Christianity and then Islam.
Using their plundered wealth Then these arab now Jewish « merchants » infiltrated Romans, and by inverting Mithraism, which was practiced by Rome for over 800 years, created Christianity.
This took Rome under the same false abrahamic narrative, and forever ideologically separated Rome from Iran.
From then on, the Romans have been Jewish mercenaries!
These Two, the Arab Jews and Christianized Rome invaded Iran 1400 years ago. And created Islam in order to destroy the enduring and unifying Iranian civilization that had been developing for at least 14000 years!
Iranians fought back for over 200 years.
But for the last 1000 years the Jews used Islam and « pseudo ethnic identity » wars to physically partition parts of Iran.
Hence the vast territories of Iran that are now falsely considered as Turk, or Russian or Arab .,.,
The creation of Ottoman Empire was simply a partition of greater Iran using the fake split of Shia vs Sunni Islam.
Not even the Turk identity was used 500 years ago when they created wars between eastern and western Iran.
All of the Ottoman Empire was Iranian in origin, its population, its statesmen, its nobility, its culture, its architecture etc…
Although many regional wars continued between ottoman and Iran they were cognizant of their shared identity (as the Romans shared the same ideological mithraic identity until they were cut off via Christianity)
Thus a hundred years after the creation of ottomans, the « Turk » identity was created and heavily infused into the Ottoman Empire. And in fact the Jews of Europe and Russia aided the ottomans in many raids into Iran until they took the region today referred to as « Iraq », but which was always part of Iran until four hundred years ago.
Baghdad was one of Iran’s three capital cities for 800 years!
Can you empathize with the devastation felt by millions of Iranians, disheartened not only by erasure of their culture civilizational heritage - which was built on unity, wisdom and bravery, - but to additionally endure loss of millions of their people, vast parts of their painstakingly developed territories, and their hard earned legacy?!
And to lose all of this to an abrahamic horde worthy of none of its greatness ?!! !
Just imagine the intense but silent suffering of Iranians being surrounded by fake countries which in actuality are quintessentially Iran!!
Yet who’ve been molded by Jews into enemies of Iran!!
They claim arab turk russian israeli moslem christian identities.. anything but Iran- their actual mother civilization!
To make matters worse each claim achievements, personalities and history of Iran as their own!!
All of them have been equipped and enabled by abrahamic oligarchy to destroy Iran! Over and over and over
To this very day, the dynamic of Jews using Christians, Moslems, (now around four billion!) as well as pseudo ethnic identity groups,
1. as their mercenaires for conducting warfare,
2. as fake opposition to create color revolutions,
3. as ideological foot soldiers that lionize judaism,
4. or all around objects of Jewish influence
is the absolute leitmotif, and only truth of political history.
The rest - what is taught in university or books or any media - are simply LIES.
A bit long but good ;))
Well, there is even evidence all three book religions wer scripted all together (!) only in the 14th century (plus/minus) - in the heart of Europe.
And, our chronology is fake. So the 1400 years seem a bit too stretchy for me - but again: good piece 🤗
There are just too many lies.
There are many many quotes by celebrated people concerning lies. Why?
I’m with you Franklin.
Yay Maddie - you took a little while - well done!
Wanted to make sure it was well cited to fight off the gang that’s going to come after me 😂🫠
David Cole did some research on this in the 1990s - he got a lot of shit for it. He has since recanted some of it and he's gotten even more shit for doing that. Read his Sub on this topic. I hope you are not bothered by anyone. I am highly suspicious of laws against holocaust denial or revision. I wonder when someone will come up with slavery denial lol.
Yet it's illegal to question in 18 countries... nothin to see here goyim.... move along.
The Holocaust is the only historical event questioning of which is protected by law. That alone should tell you everything you need to know about its truthfulness.
I'm Jewish and an outspoken anti-Zionist. Your post makes me very uncomfortable. With all due respect, you're not the first person to study these numbers. The Holocaust figure - 6 million - has been analyzed, reanalyzed, and challenged before. The figure has also been substantiated countless times. Antisemitism is rooted in the contention that the Holocaust is a fiction and/or that the figure of six million is inflated. For argument's sake, let's say half that many Jews were exterminated. Is that less of a horror? We agree, I think, that a LOT of people were slaughtered for being Jewish. Concentration camps are real. I've seen them with my own eyes. And what about the other 6 million people who were killed because they were gay, "gypsies", etc. Do you think those numbers are inflated as well? Is your point that the figures were inflated for the purpose of creating Israel? I'm usually in agreement with everything you say. But given all the real antisemitism stirred up in large part because of the genocide in Gaza, this post at this time strikes me as troubling.
“Antisemitism is rooted in the contention that the Holocaust is a fiction and/or that the figure of six million is inflated.”
I do not agree with this at all. Antisemitism does not stem from the Holocaust. It existed well before then.
Additionally, I never argued that concentration camps didn’t exist. They most certainly did. I simply said all of the death figures they supplied were lies. I proved that in the article. They admitted it themselves that none of their figures were correct. There’s a ton of evidence that show these were work camps as well. Many died from Typhus.
I supplied primary sources for all of this. None of this are my allegations. I sourced everything.
So…
…many died of Typhus in a work camp, and so the death camps should equate to a smaller number?
I don’t get the logic here, and never will, because it’s a choice, and to choose …now, of all times… to suddenly become critical about the beaten-dead-horse of a stat that is the Jewish count of the fuckin’ Holocaust is a ludicrously fascist-supporting tactic.
I’ll continue to choose to believe “6 million Jews” were killed, because who gives a shit about the number? Too many Jews were industrially murdered (genocide/holocaust)… done. Too many innocent Poles and flag-less immigrants were murdered for that matter, and I don’t need to know the exact amount to change my mind.
I get y’all are anti-Zionist, and that they may have tried to inflate a number to gain some sort of power, so thus the pitch-forks. But, well, fuck, guess they get lucky on this one. Because whether it be 50,000 people, 500,000 people or 50 million people, the number and means of going about it were fucking incredibly horrible. And also incredibly anti-Jewish. End of debate.
yes but Pike, in WWII many more millions of Soviets, Christians, Protestants etc were killed than jews but these groups do no do things like demand payments for 80 years from Germany, force countries to teach their kids about the killings or bring up the deaths every day as an excuse for current abhorrent actions.
Yes, THIS. this is kind of the entire point of my article. That’s why I wrote the entire paragraph about everybody else who was killed during WWII, yet were never taught those figures. We’re only taught about the “6 million” legend.
Explain to me how AMERICAN CITIZENS have no idea how many of their FELLOW AMERICANS were killed in the war?
There is a REASON for that and that’s what I’m re-examining. It is brainwashing and indoctrination. There is no other answer.
I never liked the Israeli argument "Never again". I agree with you on that one. Using the holocaust to morally immunize Israel against war crimes and ethnic cleansing is disgusting.
This is a good point. Though as I mentioned before, a large percent of the Soviet dead was Jewish. I think it would be helpful to look at the percentages of victims in each group. I agree with Norm Finklestein on using the holocaust as an excuse for mistreating others. I get you on that part.
its got nothing to to with the exact numbers or composition of dead. People die in wars. Everyone else mourns, then moves on.
the people pushing the 'holocaust' weaponise it to justify their ongoing crimes.
I’m curious if you feel this strongly about all the other thousands of people who have been mass murdered all over the world?
I agree with you. Why is it important to try to make the number lower? Does that make it less of a genocide? What number is the cut off? The Germans kept meticulous records. They have lists upon lists. They made the prisoners stand in rows and count and recount them every day. They had daily lists of how many went directly to be gassed, then burned. The Einsatzgrupen were a special killing force who went to the Eastern countries. They dug pits rounded up as many Jews as possible. They all were shot in the head then fell in the pit. Including babies and children. This would go on for days. In many countries (notably Romania) their police assisted with the killings. They got creative with their killing. We can't know how many Jews were killed in these campaigns. I have read and watched complex documentaries about the Holocaust. Making an issue of the number killed is a deflection. The information is available: Books with foot notes and interviews. The people who deny the Holocaust or need to diminish it have chosen not to know facts that are available. I'm not a Jew or an elite. Just a regular person with a particular interest in history.
Did you read the article? Because you didn’t dispute anything I said with facts…spewing off something that you heard from the MSM / Hollywood / school just isn’t going to cut it. All of those are tools to brainwash you.
The number does matter. And I explain in detail why it matters inside the article. Please read it. Then we can have a constructive conversation.
antisemitism dates back centuries, I never said it started with the Holocaust. I actually said what is helping furl is the horror of Gaza. But even without it there’s plenty of it out there. I was called a “dirty kike” on this platform. That the very definition of antisemitism in case you aren’t sure.
Anti-semitism is caused by jews vile abhorrent behaviour.
There is a lot of anti-White male bias in the USA. I think this is completely irrational - we never did anything wrong.
Do you think committing a genocide of the native peoples in Palestine is helping your cause? You don’t seem the slightest bit concerned about that while the rest of the human population of our planet is FUCKING HORRIFIED. Do you expect people to watch your beloved people ruthlessly slaughter people AS IF THEY ARE INSECTS and respond by thinking “oh gosh, these Jewish people MUST HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR THIS because to think otherwise would make me the WORST KIND OF HUMAN ON EARTH, a — GASP!! - “antisemite”.
In short WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? Why do you care more about what people might think of some Jewish mass-murdering maniacs than you do about the ACTUAL SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENTS ITSELF. You people are unbelievable in that you complain about those who protest the slaughter than you do about those COMMITTING THE SLAUGHTER. You and your ilk are literally CREATING ANTISEMITISM every time you open your GENOCIDAL MOUTHS. Just pure ugly human evil on display and the only way you complain about it is to bitch and moan about the people who are trying to stop it and NOT the people who are committing it. Make it make sense or BE HATED FOREVER
So how will you respond when someone in your comments replies to the effect that the Holocaust never happened at all?
Beth, I do not care what somebody thinks. It doesn’t keep me up at night. We’re all individual people who are entitled to have our own opinions. In fact, I welcome it. Because I usually learn something new. That’s what life is about. I don’t expect nor want to only have people following me who agree with everything that I say. That would be both boring and unproductive.
Also, can you dispute anything I said? Any of the facts I provided? Or are you just going to call me a Holocaust denier, as if that’s going to scare me away from talking about it? Because I can assure you, your desired effect will not happen. It only makes me more curious. I said that exact thing in my article, which I highly doubt you read in its entirety.
of course it DID! Millions of Eastern Europeans were murdered, gulaged, tortured and deported by the Bolshevicks and nobody ever mentions about these victims... REAL victims of the J- Bolshevicks.
You meet the actual definition of an antisemite.
Please give us a true and straightforward answer as to what qualifies someone as an “antisemite”. I look forward to your definition. TIA
WHY? for reminding the REAL suffering of the victims of Marx and Bolshviks and Lenin and Trotsky's communism? over 100 millions at least from USSR to China and in between. FACTS FACTS I am anti-communism and anti-LIES, and antibolshevism, anti-Leninism, ... whoever those perpetrators were/are. And we KNOW who they were/are.
You are fighting a retreat battle.
Look, we can exchange arguments indefinitely.
But one key fact remains - and it’s JUST the current Genozide in Gaza, executed by Jews (as u mentioned it):
Even if the holocaust did happen as you claim (it didnt..)..
..it does NOT justify at all how you guys have been slaughtering kids, woman and innocent men in your neighbourhood now for decades !
The good thing about it:
The Jews are currently replacing the Germans as the outcast, as the paria of the world.
And this is called - karma.
And it’s about time !
Hey Bonnie, thanks for the thoughtful comment. Happy to converse about this. I’m curious, did you read the article in its entirety?
Yes.
Bonnie can you cite this scholarship you’re referring to? Because if you look into it like Maddie has you will see the numbers are all over the place.
You also make a logical fallacy that “Antisemitism is rooted in the contention that the Holocaust is fiction…”. So you’re saying there was no antisemitism before the holocaust? This is the danger when you try to underpin a moderate position (“antisemitism exists”) with an untenable one “six million died and it’s illegal to question that”.
Seriously, why are Jews working overtime to make it illegal to question the Holocaust and question Zionism unless neither idea can stand up to scrutiny?
When I was in school they made us read Elie Wiesel. Then later Wiesel admitted it was fictional. This is not how you build trust.
"So you’re saying there was no antisemitism before the holocaust?" What? What are you talking about? Your interpretation of what I said is interesting but completely inaccurate. You've misinterpreted or misread basically everything I said. That's fine. I'm not into debating anyone on this platform.
I’m with you, Bonnie. I read the whole article too and it reads like Maddie is skirting carefully around saying the Holocaust didn’t happen with out saying it by casting doubt on all “facts” because some facts seem to be in question. This makes no sense to me since there are so many people who escaped to the US who have told consistent stories of their families’ persecution and murder or disappearance at the very least. There are stories from soldiers who helped liberate the camps! There’s no question the Holocaust happened. Tragically some people are using the controversy around the number of those murdered to defend anti-semitism and thereby fuel the fire against Jews. I am also against Zionism and Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. Two things can be true at once but it seems many Americans struggle with this.
I’ll just add that many of the comments here are beyond appalling.
Absolutely no where did I say the “Holocaust” didn’t happen. You inferred that, as you stated yourself. I’m not going to defend myself off of a baseless assumption.
I’m curious, can you dispute any of the facts and sources I provided that 6 million Jews did not die? Because that’s literally what the article is about. It’s not about whether it happened or not. Those are two COMPLETELY separate things.
I just quoted what you literally said Bonnie. Maybe you need to rewrite what you said.
You are absolutely right. The figure did not have to be 6 million or half or even quarter of that to be horrifying. Questioning the validity of the number does not negate the suffering endured. The unjust death of even a single human being is wrong and unacceptable. And there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for wiping out a whole population for any reason whatsoever. There is, however, a responsibility involved in quoting numbers. The article also raises an important question:
> "Ask how many Chinese civilians died during the Second World War, how many Soviet citizens were killed, how many Germans died, or even how many Americans died, and far fewer people can answer."
Millions died at the hands of Stalin (6-9 million) and Mussolini (3 million) but we only have estimates. Not exact numbers. That's not the case with the Holocaust. And it's only fair to ask why.
Can you provide information on how the numbers have been substantiated? This post makes me deeply uncomfortable as well, but also her arguments seem pretty straightforward. It’s hard to argue with if you can’t provide any counter evidence.
My arguments are extremely well stated and cited. Not one person has been able to dispute anything I said. They have simply called me an antisemite, which means that’s the only counter argument they have.
Whats funny, is that the ones calling me this have been following me for a long time. Which means they’re aware of what i do on this page: reexamine history. Ans they enjoyed my work, up until i made them uncomfortable.
I’m not going to lie, it makes me extremely uncomfortable as well… but for the exact reasons you stated. I would really love if someone could find evidence to debunk what you’ve posted. Especially because there is no need to lie about the terrible things that happened during WWII, it was fucking awful even if the real numbers are a fraction of what I’ve always been taught. But anyone that knows anything about Zionists knows they are liars to their cores, and they are more than happy to breed antisemitism by promoting falsehoods. They’re happy to point to their very real persecution for sympathy, and they’re happy for anyone uncovering their lies to equate them with all Jewish people who by and large are good and normal people like the rest of us.
But I do recognize that I need to examine biases within myself… I cannot bring myself to even like this post or any comment you make. I am observing the conditioning in my own mind in real time. It feels live a grievous, racist act to even consider that perhaps there were less deaths than I thought. Which is really fucking weird because when I examine that thought directly my conclusion is this is great news, the scale of suffering and evil was perhaps smaller than I thought. That is a good thing, a very good thing. So why does it make me feel like a total piece of shit to even consider it as a possibility.
Because you’ve been brainwashed your entire life. You’re giving them — as in the people who want you to feel this way — exactly what they want. The only answer is to de-program yourself. You are allowed to change your mind after learning new information.
Yes I know. It’s still extremely difficult to wrap your mind around. And it’s not like I’ve had the bandwidth to track down every source you’ve posted, so it’s going to be a slow process. When you’ve heard these things only from virulent antisemites your whole life, it’s very difficult to just change your perspective. That being said, I’ve gone 180 already on almost everything I was raised to believe including my own Christian fundamentalism so… I have a gut feeling that you are not bullshitting. Hard pill to swallow though.
Only the truth will set us all free from genocidal fanatics like Netanyahu and his raping ghouls.
Knee jerk reactions to the exposure of political Zionist manipulation of history ‘for’, will only serve to increase the global anti-semitism created by ongoing Zionist atrocities. Exposing the duplicity upon which Zionists build their influence will serve to separate Judaism and the real victims from the criminals who still act with impunity in their collective name. It is intended to prevent future Jewish pogroms.
We have ALL been had by our global postwar political class. They have benefitted greatly from historical lies playing on our sympathies in order to hide their exploitative criminality.
Your comment dismisses the lies that have been fed to us since 1945. If the 6 million was a lie, then what is the truth? Why can people not actually research it and find out the truth? In most western countries, researching the "holocaust" is illegal. Its not hard to undertake research and when you see the first neutral responders into the camps, in this case the International Red Cross, you see 271,000 people died. 271,000 people mind you, not 271,000 jews alone.
Once you look at these facts, the 6 million is quickly seen for what it is - blatant lies. Now in the 80 years post-WWII, jews have milked this 6 million in every country they are in to garner sympathy for their cause. The result? from 1945 to 2023 most of the world looked at jews as a downtrodden people that have been through horrors and anyone with empathy would feel sorry for them. Since 2023, people have awoken and are re-visiting the history we were all told happened. I mean, WWII killed over 20 million Soviets and nearly 90 million Christians (numbers backed up by facts unlike the 'holocaust') and you dont hear them crying about it.
TL;DR
people dont like being lied to.
The 20 million dead Soviets included a lot of Jews. The Soviet Union didn't like to focus on the number of Jews killed. This article does not mention the mass killings of civilians done on the eastern front.
Are you aware of who was in charge of the Soviet Union at that time? Because I am. I have posted countless articles about it. I’m fully aware of how many were killed.
I’m not even seeing what your point is in what you’re saying? My stance has been clear. Even ONE death is one too much. I don’t pick favorites. I find it all contemptible.
Stalin was in charge of the Soviet Union at the time, but he was not in charge of the vast territories under Nazi occupation - Ukraine, Belarus, and much of Western Russia. Not sure why you mentioned that.
Sorry I should have clarified that post. Of the 20 million Soviet dead, millions were Jewish civilians. The 6 million figure might be accurate - we may never know. The Soviets didn't like to focus on the Jews. To them, the victims were Soviets first and foremost. Not trying to piss you off here. I like your stuff.
FREE SPEECH!
Millions of Eastern Europeans were murdered, gulaged, tortured and deported by the Bolshevicks and nobody ever mentions about these victims... REAL victims of the J- Bolshevicks.
You’re the definition of an antisemite.
You are a jew, jews lie like we breathe. 💰 Here - -https://apnews.com/article/german-jews-holocaust-survivors-claims-conference-compensation-6e50867ada8a79d32d192c99020ee1cc?utm_source=perplexity
Another antisemite and a particularly loathsome one at that.
Haha any criticism of jews and they throw out slurs.
The lie doesn’t work anymore.
Can you do maths?
The Holocaust narrative does not stand up to thorough scrutiny
https://archive.org/details/holocaust-encyclopedia-uncensored-and-unconstrained-free-with-ads-2025.09.10/page/n3/mode/1up
Much like how currently university biologists are forced to spout nonsense like men can be women to keep their jobs, Historians have to pretend they believe the Holocaust story and ignore all the counter evidence against it (lest they be imprisoned in some cases)
Excellent research. The numbers just don’t make sense and history is written by the winners. Question everything.
Well done Maddie - Thank you.
And thx to Derek for the Jewish Holocaust professor’s quote.
Thank you for your support 🙏
Interesting. Being raised with that figure I never thought about it much. I’m sure you’ll be trashed by many-but I’ll not be one of them. I don’t doubt Jews were murdered.
I’ve never even thought to question it and I’m so glad you did
Of course not
Absolutely 6 million didn't die in the holocaust. I believe about 250k died of starvation and unsanitary conditions. Most towards the end of the war when all of Germany and surrounding states were isolated and starving caused by the allied powers attacks on civilian infrastructure.
Brilliant article! I had seen bits and pieces of this on the internet over the years but you put it all together! That number has been a hoax from the beginning!
On another note; it sure is looking to me like that book they say has been debunked, 'The Protocols of Zion' is sure becoming a reality, what with their expansion not all over the 'middle east' but buying up land in Argentina, Crete and elsewhere....
And lastly, I can't help but think that only 2% of the US is......can't be, some conspiracy theory going on here....think about that number only 2% yet....
Thank you so much! That was what I was hoping to do. Create something that has a lot of the information in one place. Shockingly, this isn’t even the half of it. I will probably do a part 2…
I’ve always read that 1/3 of Jewish Holocaust victims were murdered at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen death squads pushing east (1939-42) before the 3rd Reich came up with the gas trucks and later the death camps following the Wannsee Conference (death camps differing from strictly concentration/work camps).
I’ve assumed the 1/3 field death estimates were accurate (haven’t fact checked/crossed referenced).
And what about your (own) Jewish Almanachs - all just fake ?!
Clarify (sans sarcasm)
Scroll down the article !
Alot of us white people like my knew this storys already in the 80s lady, some even before, nothing new, my grandfather was an SS officer in WW2, he landed in the soviet gulags but survived, when i was a child i learned alot from him, we told the world already in the 20s,30s,40s who the "chosen" people really are but the world did not listen but destroyed us, today its too late, you can do nothing anymore
There is always something to be done. Your defeatist mentality certainly isn’t helpful. Put yourself in a 20 year olds shoes who is learning about this for the first time. That’s the people in writing this for.
Nope more lies from the devils spawn if it was true they wouldn't be invading Palestine cos there wouldn't be enough of them. All bollox wish it had then there would be 6 million less child rapists and child killers 🍉🏴💜
I've always wondered why I wasnt ever issued a new land, being descended from gypsys, having a disability and being gay... that would have been lovely.